Re: [Salon] Russian ‘False Flag’ Ukraine Plot Wouldn’t Be Its First



Michael, thanks for your comment. Evidence that the Russians used a false flag operation to wage war on Chechnya is overwhelming and to the point. Given Putin’s perfidy on Crimea and Ukraine proper, we have to give serious weight to reports that he’s planning to do the same to justify an invasion. But I also reported that other nations, including the US, have dreamt up or employed false flag schemes. Saying that the US has a “distinguished false flag record as well” is wrong because it conflates provocations (Guatemala, etc) with false flags. All this other stuff about the CIA and Nazis is basically irrelevant and inflammatory “whataboutism” that Moscow, Qanon and likes of Tucker Carlson love to employ.

  

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On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:08 PM, MICHAEL TELSON <mltelson@aol.com> wrote:

So?  Does that mean the Russians aren’t? 

That’s the issue, it seems to me, not whether the US had also done it.  And whether that was or was not appropriate at the time.  

But this is NOW.

And is it helpful or not to make the point that the Russians might try to do it?

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On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:22 PM, Todd Pierce via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:

 With all due respect, the U.S. has a pretty distinguished False Flag record as well, and long before 9/11, but especially since that date. In fact, I would shout: We’re # 1!, and let’s not have any false modesty over that, in my opinion. As we move ever closer to the “near competitor war” we’ve been dreaming of, and preparing for, and which Trump/Bannon/Pompeo  was leading us to until it fell to Biden to take our wars to that height, and us across the “finish line” of that goal. With that “triumph” in mind, perhaps someone here would like to pay tribute to those Nazi Doctors who collaborated with the founding of the CIA to bring their tricks into our intelligence system, as Stephen Kinder and Annie Jacobsen and others explained of the founding of the CIA, with the CIA still up to the tricks their “founding fathers” bequeathed to them, from Berlin, to Langley. 

On Feb 3, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Jeff Stein via Salon <salon@listserve.com> wrote:

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